Designers keep some gals from wearing the pants

14 Nov
This isn't me, because I refuse to do yoga without yoga pants. But apparently this kitty isn't. LMA

This isn’t me, because I refuse to do yoga without pants. But apparently this kitty isn’t. LMA

They just don’t give us a break, do they? First, in May we dealt with Mike Jeffries, CEO of Abercrombie & Fitch, and barely six months later we are faced with Chip Wilson, CEO of yoga-clothier Lululemon.

Does it ever end?

A brief recap, last May, Mr. Jeffries went on record to say that he purposefully does not order women’s clothing in larger sizes because he does not want fat chicks wearing his brand.

A few days ago, Chip Wilson, who, despite having a name similar to that of a famous 1970s comedian, was not joking when he stated that some of us gals are just not suited for yoga pants. The largest garments designed by the Canadian-based retailer is a women’s size 12. That’s pretty much average, when you think about it.


My pub and I are a little crunched on time, but we did a little investigating on sizing and fit for women’s clothing. First, it is VERY disappointing that we could find no yoga pants befitting lovable four-legged females with tails. Where do I file a complaint?

After we got over that injustice, we checked her favorite retailers to see if Jeffries and Wilson are the only CEOs who are covertly shunning women with larger builds. Here is what we learned:

We are not quite sure what a 00 is, but we are more alarmed that only one clothier, Athleta, offers fashions all the way up to size 20. Notice, too, that an XL at Athleta is six sizes larger than an XL at Titlenine. Unlike most men’s fashions, there does not appear to be a standard. Speaking of size, you gotta read that fine print. A sad note: We read about all this stupidity, but how many of us heed it? A&F continues to flourish despite Jeffries’ stupid statements.


We were starting to check stocks for A&F and Lululemon, then we came across this piece written by our favorites at We love the Motley Fools and where their writer, AnnaLisa Kraft, did such a good job getting to the point, we’ll let her tell you.

Thanks for checking in, xo LMA

Lululemon Is Acting a Lot Like Abercrombie & Fitch

                By AnnaLisa Kraft

                November 11, 2013

Let’s imagine the scene that took place in two different C-suites this past week.

First, in Vancouver, British Columbia — headquarters of lululemon athletica (NASDAQ: LULU  ) — we see executives are moaning, heads in hands, after Lululemon founder Chip Wilson’s appearance on Bloomberg TV, where he flat out said that “some women’s bodies just don’t actually work [for the yoga pants].”

Then he made it worse, going on to describe in more detail the faulty female mechanics (women’s thighs rubbing together) that caused pilling on the Astro yoga pant, Lululemon’s most recent quality control dilemma. The debacle has prompted a petition by calling for Wilson’s public apology and an admission that the problem is with the pants and not the ladies.

Meanwhile, imagine being a fly on the wall in the New Albany, Ohio, C-Suite of Abercrombie & Fitch (NYSE: ANF  ) . The mood there, we imagine, is one of relief — maybe even outright elation.

There, the executives are smirking with relief that founder/CEO Michael Jeffries isn’t in the crossfire… this time.They’ve done their fair share of crisis management, given Jeffries’ past comments about how Abercrombie’s fashions are only for the “cool kids” and its conscious decision to spurn plus-size customers. And, like Lululemon, their CEO has also made the company the target of petitions and boycotts.

Adept at foot-in-mouth yoga pose

The occasional gaffe can be expected from a CEO. It’s repeat performances that are a problem.

This isn’t the first time that Lululemon’s Chip Wilson has generated controversy and embarrassed the company. In 2005, he advocated child labor in Asia as a means to bootstrap families out of poverty, adding that 12- to 13-year-olds in Canada should work in factories rather than take handouts from the government.

Then there is Wilson’s take on breast cancer and divorce. This is directly from a 2009 blog post on how Lululemon grew.

Breast cancer also came into prominence in the 1990’s.  I suggest this was due to the number of cigarette-smoking Power Women who were on the pill (initial concentrations of hormones in the pill were very high) and taking on the stress previously left to men in the working world.


In the early 1970’s, “the pill” came into being… Women’s lives changed immediately. Men’s lives didn’t change however and they continued to search for a stay-at-home wife like their mothers. Men did not know how to relate to the new female. Thus came the era of divorces.

Who knew a corporate big-wig — and one who founded a company that primarily caters to women — could be more offensive than Jeffries?

A culture of corporate missteps

Just in August Lululemon, not Wilson, responded on its Facebook page to another disclosure that its clothes are only available in sizes 2-12 with this:

Our product and design strategy is built around creating products for our target guest in our size range of 2-12. While we know that doesn’t work for everyone and recognize fitness and health come in all shapes and sizes, we’ve built our business, brand and relationship with our guests on this formula…

And this spring, Lululemon had to recall $17 million worth of its high-margin, too-sheer Luon yoga pants. The company said in its second-quarter earnings report that the recall probably cost Lululemon an additional $45 million in lost sales, although that was less than expected.

In June, CEO Christine Day announced that she would be leaving once a suitable replacement was found. This latest fiasco can’t make that task any easier.

Meanwhile, over at Abercrombie…

Abercrombie’s Jeffries seems to step in it on a regular basis. A year ago, an age discrimination suit filed by Jeffries’ 50-something pilot brought to light a bizarre 47-page manual for Jeffries’ private Gulfstream staff mandating boxer shorts, flip-flops, and Abercrombie cologne be worn and that the words “No problem” be used in answer to all requests.

Jeffries hasn’t been in the limelight for several months, presumably lying low since a 2006 Salon interview came back this spring to bite him in his denim-clad derriere. From that interview, in answer to the importance of sex appeal in the company’s strategy:

It’s almost everything. That’s why we hire good-looking people in our stores. Because good-looking people attract other good-looking people, and we want to market to cool, good-looking people. We don’t market to anyone other than that. In every school there are the cool and popular kids, and then there are the not-so-cool kids. Candidly, we go after the cool kids. We go after the attractive all-American kid with a great attitude and a lot of friends. A lot of people don’t belong [in our clothes], and they can’t belong. Are we exclusionary? Absolutely.

Whether the company lost customers after that brouhaha is hard to determine: Teen retail has been challenged industrywide.

An investor could overlook a rogue CEO or founder if his her her company were performing well. But that’s not the case at either retailer.

Abercrombie recently checked in with second-quarter results that were among the worst in teen retail. It reported same-store sales down at Hollister, namesake Abercrombie, and abercrombie kids. It also guided lower than analysts expected for the third quarter.

In the meantime, shareholders have been understandably upset with Jeffries’ compensation of $8.5 million, the highest CEO pay per worker annual salary (worth 1,640 employees). They overwhelmingly voted against a company-proposed compensation package in June.

At Lululemon, investors already voiced their apprehension at the coming change in management. When CEO Day gave her notice, the stock fell nearly 20%. The stock is barely up 0.89% on the year after five years of fabulous stock appreciation under Day’s tenure.

Then there are the two high-profile fashion faux pas, raising questions about product quality. Lululemon built its reputation on high-quality merchandise, which translated into healthy gross margins. There’s growing competition for disappointed Lululemon shoppers, with companies like Under Armour and Nike getting into studio workout gear.

Stop insulting your customers

There’s a lot that these companies have going for them, including the potential for future growth. But when building a business that’s based on certain brand attributes, every misstep — even if it comes from the C-suite — is bad for the bottom line. Insulting potential customers is no way to run a business.


8 Responses to “Designers keep some gals from wearing the pants”

  1. Bruce Thiesen November 14, 2013 at 12:52 pm #

    Revolting people. And just how do the companies attract any workers at all? This tells us that the ceos are not alone in their views of such things. Or on the sunnier side, maybe a mutiny to change things could be organized from the inside. Frankly, I don’t think we might just be better off without either of these two companies.

    • louisamayalcatt November 18, 2013 at 10:45 am #

      So agreed, Bruce, then again, does Phillip Morris have trouble retaining employees? this opens up research on so many issues. We’re doing additional fact checking for another post related to this, as it is rather fascinating. there’s a lot out there on this. thanks again for reading, xo LMA

  2. Carol Jamison November 14, 2013 at 1:26 pm #

    Appreciate this post, Ms. Alcatt! Me, I personally buy my workout gear at T.J. Maxx…don’t have to be decked out, it just has to work! Amazing the differences in size from company to company. Isn’t that true throughout the women’s clothing industry? I wear anything from a size 4 to a size 12, and it is not me that is different when going from store to store!

    • louisamayalcatt November 18, 2013 at 10:43 am #

      Hi Carol, this is soooo true. My pub and I have been doing further research on this for an upcoming post. Did you know that one study, conducted by Cosmopolitan Magazine, stated that, while comparing a myriad of designers’ size 4, the difference in waist lines measured as much as 8.25 inches of fabric. We;re pieceing that post together, xox LMA

  3. LB November 18, 2013 at 8:56 am #

    Athleta it is (not that I wear yoga pants … or could work my body into any yoga pose). Keep on LMA!

    • louisamayalcatt November 18, 2013 at 10:48 am #

      Hi LB, you don’t need to do yoga to wear comfy yoga paints. they are great for convalescing. Speaking of which, how is that going? well, we hope, xo LMA

      • LB November 18, 2013 at 11:12 am #

        I’m making progress and in fact, go back to work on Weds. I’m hoping for good energy and no headaches 🙂

      • louisamayalcatt November 18, 2013 at 11:35 am #

        sending good energy!!!

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